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Maude

Listened to Out of the Grey at your suggestion. I’ll be perfectly straight: I don’t find Contemporary Christian music to be my thing, and this group was no exception

Now I love gospel music from artists like Ray Charles, Al Green, Aretha Franklin, and the like.. Additionally, expressing one’s faith through music is beautiful. Aesthetically, however, Christian pop/rock does nothing for me. Not enough artistic risks. It all sounds so… same-y to me. If it’s your thing, it’s your thing. No argument here.

Oh, last thought on Fiona Apple, then I promise to shut up about her:

Your distaste for her music’s production is understandable, but I feel like it deserves proper context. Apple is an alternative music artist, as in “alternative to the mainstream.” Her producer Jon Brion is known for composing the scores for indie films like Lady Bird and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Apple is more for fans of Bjork, not Taylor Swift. So… If what you listen to is on the radio, it’s gonna be a shock to the system haha.

E.C. Henry

Hello yet again, Maude!

With all this banter that you keep besieging me with concerning Fiona Apple, I did listen to a couple of her songs. I would agree that she has a servicable to good voice. Probably a 6 or 7 on a scale of 1-10. Her overall music is complete crap, however. So whatever's there in her vocals gets overshadowed by her poor choice in its application. Definite victim of 10-cent-head syndrome.

All the Grammy wins in the world don't mean anything if your end product is crap, which hers is.

Winning a Grammy means NOTHING. Music is an individually grading art. I don't outsource my thinking to the Grammy people. If they wanna promote shit, that's on them.

Fiona Apple is shit music. Maybe someday she'll put it together and make something of merrit, but not so far.

That said, I'm not a big fan of Lady Gaga's music either, but I gotta say that woman has a gifted voice when she applies it properly.

Point: your gift and abilities matter in the way you apply or misapply it.

Check out Christine Dente's music. She is such such a gifted singer. "The One I've Been Waiting For". I actually used that song in the soundtrack for one the early spec. scripts I wrote, "Revenge of the Fat Chicks".

Maude

Apple’s last album won 2 Grammys and received an exceedingly rare perfect rating on Pitchfork, so she must be doing something right.

Anyway, good luck with your own writing! I look forward to you penning an Oscar nominated script before turning 30…

E.C. Henry

Why hello there again, Maude.

I've seen Magnolia, and it's a really, really BAD movie, imo. The stuff with the plagues of frogs at the end was over-the-top bad; and was the worst payoff in the history of movies that are slow burns as they steadily raise the dramatic tension. Absolute ridiculous ending.
I was shocked an actor like Tom Cruise was in it. Worst movie of his career.

Boogie Nights and There Will Be Blood were both much better movies than the cringe-worthy Magnolia.

I guess Fiona Apple is an answer to a Trivial Pursuit question, but in the greater discussion of the greatest female rocker or voice of all time, doesn't merit serious consideration.

Even in looking at what other people considered the best female vocalist of all-time, Fiona Apple is never mention in upper echelon of female voices.

Maude

It’s all good. I don’t believe the lyrics are promoting Satan. It’s more about a “fallen” woman looking for salvation, but if you’re not into them, you’re not into them…

Also, knowing that you’re a screenwriter, you might be interested to learn that Fiona Apple was once in a long-term relationship with screenwriter Paul Thomas Anderson of Boogie Nights and There Will Be Blood fame. He based the character Claudia in his movie Magnolia on FA. By the way, that film’s overall narrative is inspired by Exodus 8:2.

Maybe your personal rock heroes and/or significant other can help inspire your own writing.

E.C. Henry

Good morning, Maude. Thanks for taking the time to drop a comment.

I'm not familiar with Fiona Apple. The lyrics you sited were pretty profane. Maybe it's best I don't know what she's doing.

Today's music has really gone south. Ever heard of the act "Doja Cat"? Totally demonic and given over to the devil. I watched her video for "Paint the Town Red." In it she embraces a devil and sings in allegiance to demons.

Chistine Dente is THE BEST female singer of all-time. Listen to some of Out of the Grey's songs and I think you'll come along to the same manner of reasoning.

Heavenly voices >>>> those who lend their support to demonic causes

Maude

Can I put in a vote for Fiona Apple as not only one of the all-time great female vocalists in rock, but one of its best songwriters as well?

Though there are loads of great lyrics to choose from, I thought you might appreciate the bridge from her biggest hit, “Criminal”:

“Let me know the way/Before there's hell to pay/Give me room to lay the law and let me go/I've got to make a play/To make my lover stay/So, what would an angel say?/The devil wants to know…”

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